tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post4479118080600390655..comments2023-06-05T04:26:27.437-07:00Comments on Forty Shades Of Grey: On underage sex, bad science and pearl-clutchingForty Shades Of Greyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-5504266665055089592011-12-20T04:25:16.435-08:002011-12-20T04:25:16.435-08:00Also relevant. YOUNG WOMEN HAVE SEX!! http://merma...Also relevant. YOUNG WOMEN HAVE SEX!! http://mermaidsparkles.tumblr.com/post/14141154355Lipstick Mermaidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06803631686065712900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-54326625567330938182011-12-19T07:14:01.119-08:002011-12-19T07:14:01.119-08:00@Sebastienne
I'm not saying that learning abou...@Sebastienne<br />I'm not saying that learning about relationships from popular culture is a good idea but I think that trying to teach everyone about good relationships may suffer from similar problems. It will likely still favour the popular culture view of what a relationship should be and just end up reinforcing it.<br /><br />I don't object to teenagers learning about relationships, I just object to them being presented as good or (by implication at least) bad relationships, or creating the belief that being in a relationship is a prerequisite to being happy.Spudman101https://www.blogger.com/profile/16569182720618639952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-47839349647898336952011-12-19T05:16:18.828-08:002011-12-19T05:16:18.828-08:00@Spudman101: "I think that relationships are ...@Spudman101: "I think that relationships are ... individual and subjective ... Everyone has to find their own way to whatever makes them happy."<br /><br />Yup. And that's why they need to be taught. Kids won't pick it up from popular culture, which promotes the idea of a heterosexual, monogamous, sexual relationship, with marriage/family as an expected endpoint.Sebastiennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14049602363105805106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-33703098844241318052011-12-19T03:27:24.819-08:002011-12-19T03:27:24.819-08:00Good article. I always enjoy a passionate article....Good article. I always enjoy a passionate article. It makes me feel like I'm not on my own getting angry about this kind of stuff.<br /><br />@Alex J. Dass<br />How do you define a "good relationship"? Is a good relationship a monogamous relationship? Does that mean that non-monogamous relationships are bad? Are relationships part of a healthy life? If someone is not in a relationship are they unhealthy? Is it wrong to be alone?<br /><br />I think that relationships are too individual and subjective to be taught. Everyone has to find their own way to whatever makes them happy.<br /><br />If, on the other hand, you just wish you had been taught how to convince someone to have regular sex when you were a teenager then I think you will be disappointed as there is no secret unlock code for sex (at least as far as I am aware).<br /><br />On the bright side, teenage relationships are usually full of stress, misery, awkwardness and disappointment as these are the primary attributes that most teenagers bring to any situation. So you probably didn't miss out on much anyway.Spudman101https://www.blogger.com/profile/16569182720618639952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-24208517368664747392011-12-18T12:49:55.304-08:002011-12-18T12:49:55.304-08:00I really liked this article.
There doesn't s...I really liked this article. <br /><br />There doesn't seem to be much in the way of dating/sex advice that is *actually useful* made available, or at least that's how I feel looking back on my woefully sexless teenage years. <br /><br />I don't just mean in terms of how to have good sex, but also how to get into good relationships, and how to be the kind of person that has good relationships. I feel like that kind of education is what I was missing most growing up and it's only as an adult that I've managed to start working it out for myself. <br /><br />Seeing as how sex and sexy relationships are such a huge part of having a healthy life, the fact that I got most of my training from pop culture and porn seems really inadequate and kind of harmful. <br /><br />But as you're saying, it's not inadequate and harmful in the way that they're making it out to be. The fact that they're framing it in that way and possibly justifying (even creating) the woman-hating attitudes of people who read it is much more harmful than 'pornification.' <br /><br />Anyways, really good article. Keep up the good work.Alex J. Dasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12746589616657612304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-73307786430719841982011-12-17T10:16:46.251-08:002011-12-17T10:16:46.251-08:00I think at my age I'm supposed to be rememberi...I think at my age I'm supposed to be remembering my teen years as a golden age of purity. Unfortunately, I have this thing about not lying to myself.<br /><br />Completely OT, but I've just rediscovered <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk" rel="nofollow">this video</a>. If you have 15 min to spare, I really recommend it. Mind-blowing.Dazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622416045642207737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-84271088385620597392011-12-17T10:06:28.603-08:002011-12-17T10:06:28.603-08:00Completely agree. I remember reading something aft...Completely agree. I remember reading something after the riots where they looked back at reporting of teenage crime in the media for about 200 years - turns out for the whole time they've always been saying that things were better when they were teenagers, and that this generation are degenerates. <br /><br />I don't know, at what age do you completely and utterly forget what horrid little bastards you and your friends were as teenagers?Forty Shades Of Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-61235106412231391982011-12-17T08:35:30.810-08:002011-12-17T08:35:30.810-08:00A situation I know only too well. Agency work'...A situation I know only too well. Agency work's picked up around here of late with the christmas rush (lots of food factories hereabouts) but I'm fully expecting to be virtually workless again soon. Ho-hum.<br /><br />Ah, sorry! I may have been projecting a bit. I was in a stew about summat and pouring it into a blog-post as your comment appeared in my inbox.<br /><br />Meanwhile, back on-topic:<br /><br />Given that youngsters have apparently—according to the people who've regularly come out with this dribble since the bloody Domesday Book—been getting more and more licentious with every generation, howcome we're not already at the stage of 100% teen-pregnancies, and most kids having their first sexual experience at about 7 years old?<br /><br />Okay, maybe that's a tad facetious, but my point still stands, I think. My mum can remember such complaints about 'today's sexualised youth' going back to the 1950s, though it was couched a little more circumspectly back then. They always complain of a rise in teen-pregnancies since the golden-haired angel-like purity of their own generation's teens; yet the long-term rise you'd expect to see if they'd all been right, just isn't in evidence.<br /><br />Mind you, the <i>drop</i> in backstreet abortions is real, yet somehow they manage to miss that little statistic out of their arguments.Dazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622416045642207737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-17208762921601850762011-12-17T05:09:48.646-08:002011-12-17T05:09:48.646-08:00Merely self-deprecating. (Although I am still bloo...Merely self-deprecating. (Although I am still bloody unemployed!)Forty Shades Of Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-59158098701150243962011-12-16T22:10:04.369-08:002011-12-16T22:10:04.369-08:00That sounds ... mildly depressive. You okay?That sounds ... mildly depressive. You okay?Dazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622416045642207737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-28840859992258731022011-12-16T21:58:38.256-08:002011-12-16T21:58:38.256-08:00Glad to finally be of use for something :)Glad to finally be of use for something :)Forty Shades Of Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-61919666897721834322011-12-16T21:53:15.839-08:002011-12-16T21:53:15.839-08:00"a moebius strip of asshattery"
I am de..."a moebius strip of asshattery"<br /><br />I am definitely stealing that! Bog knows how I'll use it, but I'll find a way if it kills me.Dazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622416045642207737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-42712891830230688352011-12-16T21:42:08.198-08:002011-12-16T21:42:08.198-08:00That would be the bugger. I believe, as I said to ...That would be the bugger. I believe, as I said to someone earlier, that it can not be described in the terms you use, but that the respective parties are but a moebius strip of asshattery. He's a rent-a-gobshite, just as all the others are :(Forty Shades Of Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-74247120145579128892011-12-16T20:03:10.612-08:002011-12-16T20:03:10.612-08:00That would be Stephen "Wife Beater" &quo...That would be Stephen "Wife Beater" "Birdshit" Green, of Christian Voice? Yeah, I'm not honestly sure whether it's a sign of how bad the Mail is that it panders to such people, or of how bad they are that they make it into the Mail so often. Tough call…<br /><br /><i>*Reminds self to click subscribe this time*</i>Dazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622416045642207737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-19036582573804923612011-12-16T14:13:34.228-08:002011-12-16T14:13:34.228-08:00Honestly, my first reaction when I was writing thi...Honestly, my first reaction when I was writing this was to Google them + Nadine Dorries as I was so sure they would just be bestest friends. Apparently not, or she's covering her links with them like she did with the extremist anti-abortion lot. Couldn't be arsed reading the whole of their website, but I'm guessing it's pretty much just a one-man show like Stephen Green (also beloved of the Mail) and his 'organisations' which usually consist of a membership of...uhm, Stephen Green.Forty Shades Of Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-6522800554047302452011-12-16T14:09:57.410-08:002011-12-16T14:09:57.410-08:00I've come across those 'Family Education T...I've come across those 'Family Education Trust' idiots before. They claim not to have a religious agenda, but the abstinence-only thing, as well as the 'family' in the name are pretty sharp pointers as to their motives, whether they admit it or not. These are not nice people.Dazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622416045642207737noreply@blogger.com