tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post5198119856210975054..comments2023-06-05T04:26:27.437-07:00Comments on Forty Shades Of Grey: On Free Speech and THAT NS ArticleForty Shades Of Greyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-32998129678059306082011-11-11T21:45:24.707-08:002011-11-11T21:45:24.707-08:00More and more it seems like I'm dealing with p...More and more it seems like I'm dealing with people (and sadly this includes a few women I know) who do not tolerate any opinion of a woman that differs in any way from their own. I've seen this on the internet and in life for awhile now and I've even had it happen to me before but somehow just over the last two years or so it seems to have gotten much worse everywhere I look. Thank you for speaking up about this and I offer my thanks to all female bloggers and gamers even ones who's opinions I don't agree with, because just by doing what they're doing they're refuting the idea that women should only exist to please and comfort others. <br />There's a great but over looked book by Dorothy Dinnerstein called "The Mermaid and The Minotaur" where she makes the case for how misogyny is basically people refusing to resolve their mommy issues. To quote her;<br />"The being who is the focus of these mixed feeling is not - even in retrospect - a unitary fellow creature; not an "I", but an amorphous, sub- and superhuman "she". She can remain amorphous, a bodily and emotional intimate whose own selfhood is inconceivable, unacceptable, because an innocent and dignified "he" is there to represent the part of a person that wants to stand clear of the flesh, to maintain perspective on it: "I"ness wholly free of the chaotic carnal atmosphere of infancy, uncontaminated humanness, is reserved for man." - Dorothy Dinnerstein, 1976<br />Every time a woman speaks her mind she is asserting her humanity and her self hood. These assertions are threats to the world views of certain people who have taken the path of least resistance with respect to their personal development. Because they feel threatened they then feel entitled to make threats but their threats are the real thing; actual claims that they will do physical harm and these aren't covered by free speech. Spudman had a good point these people are acting like babies. As for their BS about double meanings and nuance well they don't care if they ruin the whole concept of communication by separating words from their meanings. The destruction of meaning is the destruction of consciousness and as they're trying to not face the truth about themselves this outcome suits them just fine.Ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08066235053412447277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-2702951018247419132011-11-08T16:34:18.526-08:002011-11-08T16:34:18.526-08:00I actually found your blog by this article.
The fi...I actually found your blog by this article.<br />The first thing I read was about the (failed) proposal, and I was hooked.<br />This one comes second, and it only confirmed my opinion.<br />I will definitely be following this blog.<br /><br />Now, where can I find the male version of yourself ?Vihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01428872038715531424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-79126766420549944212011-11-04T07:07:31.390-07:002011-11-04T07:07:31.390-07:00Oh oh oh I love it so much when people invoke free...Oh oh oh I love it so much when people invoke freedom of speech to try and tell you to shut up.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08288284218700038061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-84154842514956636762011-11-04T06:24:22.434-07:002011-11-04T06:24:22.434-07:00The easiest thing in the world is to be a man. I d...The easiest thing in the world is to be a man. I don't know why so many of us are terrible at it.Thomas Pluckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17008022962076648740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-65988914262182158162011-11-04T06:19:28.559-07:002011-11-04T06:19:28.559-07:00my comment didn't get published on the NS arti...my comment didn't get published on the NS article but you can read it:<br /><br />http://sianandcrookedrib.blogspot.com/2011/11/comment-on-new-statesman.html<br /><br />Was too long or something. Which is weird as 'me' comment was really long!<br /><br />But well said Nat. Horrifying how the comments proved the blogpost.<br /><br />Intimidating me so much with threats that i nearly shut down my blog? who's attacking free speech there!<br /><br />Also, because people refuse to believe the rape threats and gendered nastiness of it all, some people say 'hey, people are going to disagree with you!'.<br /><br />But that isn't the same. I disagree with you Nat about mushrooms. I don't express that disagreement with violent threats and hate language. <br /><br />People can and will disagree with me on my blog. Although i would LOVE it if everyone agreed with me (!) i accept they won't and i publish their comments and i engage in a debate. Those people manage to disagree with me without physically threatening me. It's not hard!sianandcrookedribhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00959715300131969670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-8474941254136594512011-11-04T04:15:19.355-07:002011-11-04T04:15:19.355-07:00I was about to be a tiny bit fair to the author of...I was about to be a tiny bit fair to the author of your favourite little gem and suggest he was just, in a very narrow way, pointing out that most of the people making rape threats on t'internet probably don't have any real intention of raping the author (while somehow not addressing that it's unacceptable to abuse people in that way regardless).<br /><br />But then I followed the comment's advice, and in the context of who wrote it and what else he wrote, I decided he was being a complete dick-end.Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02422063652381853470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-26971796169173798932011-11-04T04:14:25.964-07:002011-11-04T04:14:25.964-07:00I find it surprising that people can say they were...I find it surprising that people can say they were not aware of the problem. I've known it's a problem for women on the internet for a long time (and not just bloggers, see http://fatuglyorslutty.com/ for examples of the abuse female gamers are subjected to).<br /><br />I wish people would stop saying that the things they say are not offensive because they mean something different when they say them. Communication is all about the meaning that other people draw from what you are saying.<br /><br />If you take people at their word and accept that they can't manage to synch up sounds they are making with the meaning they are trying to get across then they are essentially at the same level of communication as a new born baby who just makes the loudest most offensive sound possible in order to get attention. Of course the baby is superior because it will work to improve it's communication skills.Spudman101https://www.blogger.com/profile/16569182720618639952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-42554024011188978962011-11-04T03:31:22.353-07:002011-11-04T03:31:22.353-07:00Hear fuckity fucking hear.Hear fuckity fucking hear.MezzoPianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15819168595902911079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-71244044607780096782011-11-04T03:31:20.538-07:002011-11-04T03:31:20.538-07:00You're completely wrong and deserve to be hide...You're completely wrong and deserve to be hideously mangled! How DARE you come on the internet and say bad things about mushrooms? You are a classic example of a rabid mushroom hating bigot, hiding behind your fascist PC mumbo jumbo to deny - nay, stifle! nay, ban, outlaw and endanger! - my joy and pleasure in glorious fungi! I hope you choke on a shitake!Marina Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14449789093721258516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-73799847104580031922011-11-04T03:28:14.975-07:002011-11-04T03:28:14.975-07:00I like this because it is good and because it has ...I like this because it is good and because it has a kitten in it.Jam Master Ghislainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06690115460933495994noreply@blogger.com