tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post7118623066019479181..comments2023-06-05T04:26:27.437-07:00Comments on Forty Shades Of Grey: Another 'Hilarious' T-shirtForty Shades Of Greyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-1934602469556506312011-10-11T08:05:34.365-07:002011-10-11T08:05:34.365-07:00I got the same copy and paste email. It's path...I got the same copy and paste email. It's pathetic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-34143070758635852532011-10-10T10:47:43.860-07:002011-10-10T10:47:43.860-07:00How about we search bomb their own website? Popula...How about we search bomb their own website? Popular searches show up near the bottom of at least the main page. Search for phrases like "Chargrilled are rape apologists" (handily already pops up for you when you start typing it), "rape apologist", "no means no", "no + rohypnol still means no".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-54727692200194792532011-10-10T09:02:25.873-07:002011-10-10T09:02:25.873-07:00...I am doubleplus unpleased with the T-Shirt?...I am doubleplus unpleased with the T-Shirt?Spudman101https://www.blogger.com/profile/16569182720618639952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-82126703051779864162011-10-10T09:01:58.402-07:002011-10-10T09:01:58.402-07:00The most alarming thing about M's link seems t...The most alarming thing about M's link seems to be that the default size for that T-shirt is "Child, age 3-4"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-39633384531572780292011-10-10T08:46:08.550-07:002011-10-10T08:46:08.550-07:00Thanks M - have forwarded my original email to the...Thanks M - have forwarded my original email to them too. <br /><br />ManInAHat - He clearly meant 'ugly feminist' to accord with the stereotype of 'unattractive, humourless, sexless, hairy man-hater'. To respond to you other points: 1) They pride themselves on being uncivil. I thought they'd like it. 2) See 1).Forty Shades Of Greyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07070982468518425595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-74481022967398537682011-10-10T08:25:41.391-07:002011-10-10T08:25:41.391-07:00I think they meant "ugly feminist" in th...I think they meant "ugly feminist" in the sense of "Ugly American", as in a "stereotypically loud, boorish and arrogant". Unfortunately, I am inclined to see things there way - they just received a shit storm of emails in which people reapeatedly shout fuck you at them, encouraging them to disregard what they see as a bunch of childish, loud-mouthed, reactionary fools.<br /><br />I don't make this point to suggest the t-shirt is okay, that people shouldn't be offended, or that we shouldn't complain to them. I just think our emails would be less effective if we fill them full of course language and insults. Keep it civil.<br /><br />So I am making a "tone argument", which apparently is a form of silencing. That doesn't wash with me for two reasons:<br />1) Though the tone argument is a fallacy because it has nothing to do with the actually point being made, nether-the-less if the whole purpose of an argument is to convince onlookers with your views, the least you could do is not give them an easy reason to think "this commentator can't even be civil - so how can they be expected to raise a sensible point?". <br /><br />2) In the email Natelie sent, she specifically talks about how we should avoid the poor jokes and mysogynistic terms because rapists use them to validate their own views. By the same token, I feel that using swear words and harsh language in a formal complaint ends up only validating the views of disinterested jerks who regard all feminists as loudmouths. <br /><br />Language is something we should be very cautious with, so it saddens me to see a criticism of Chargrilled's poorly chosen words featuring more poorly chosen words.<br /><br />Again, I don't want to discourage anyone from expressing their disatisfaction with Chargrilled. I will be doing so myself. Anyone who agrees that the t-shirt is offensive should still do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-24883244153309597782011-10-10T08:24:11.518-07:002011-10-10T08:24:11.518-07:00Guys - I don't want to give you complaint fati...Guys - I don't want to give you complaint fatigue, but http://bit.ly/qq3PtL too.Martynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13381187790729894677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-87340122605187397962011-10-09T08:53:46.582-07:002011-10-09T08:53:46.582-07:00Excellently worded argument as always, dude. I'...Excellently worded argument as always, dude. I'm appalled that it ever happened in the first place.Otternatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15660238670573866971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-67817383232283669682011-10-09T02:14:42.381-07:002011-10-09T02:14:42.381-07:00This is disgusting, thank you for highlighting the...This is disgusting, thank you for highlighting the issue. Any joking about any kind of rape, whether it's blatant or subtle is extremely damaging because it changes things that contribute to rape culture into humor and makes them more 'acceptable'. What's next? T'shirts saying 'her skirt was short, she was asking for it?' Or are they already available?<br /><br />I'm sure any men complaining that their t-shirts aren't bad(if any, i'd hope not) would find 'You rape+Prison+Cell mate=sore arse for you mate' offensive, but things always appear different to people like that when it actually affects them. <br /><br />Topshop and TopMan can kiss any retail from me good bye.Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14949550583072956322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-89369152349547906352011-10-08T13:33:55.841-07:002011-10-08T13:33:55.841-07:00Hi all - It is heartening to see these comments ag...Hi all - It is heartening to see these comments against such an awful t-shirt. Could i ask you to sign a petition against a Facebook page that contains awful rape jokes. We have been petitioning for around 5 weeks now, and have had some media coverage, but there is a long way to go. The full story is here: http://rapeneverfunny.wordpress.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-71843620146103151492011-10-08T12:52:51.682-07:002011-10-08T12:52:51.682-07:00I got the same response to my email. I find it ver...I got the same response to my email. I find it very difficult to believe that they don't moderate the content of their website before putting things up for sale; as such, I doubt the sincerity of their email. I suppose at least they've taken it down, but only after the flood of emails and complaints they've received.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-62413931719911042782011-10-08T12:12:37.352-07:002011-10-08T12:12:37.352-07:00They have responded and conceded:
First of all, w...They have responded and conceded:<br /><br />First of all, we would like to offer an unconditional apology for this t-shirt. CharGrilled does not <br />endorse rape or sexual violence in any form.<br /><br />Unfortunately we have recently contracted a number of new designers who contribute t-shirts to our <br />website. Needless to say, the designer responsible for this t-shirt will not be used by us again. <br />Furthermore, we intend to have a full review of our t-shirts to make sure this kind of message has not <br />been included in other designs. The offending t-shirt has of course been removed. We will be introducing <br />more stringent controls on all our contracted designers and have contacted everyone who contributes t-<br />shirts to our site to inform them that this kind of message is unacceptable.<br /><br />We would like to thank you very much for bringing this to our attention.<br /><br />I hope that you will accept our sincere apologies over this matter.<br /><br />CharGrilledJustin Beachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15322045635953553951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-87518058297362993732011-10-07T20:05:15.227-07:002011-10-07T20:05:15.227-07:00Thanks for the pdf linkâbookmarked. It's so ha...Thanks for the pdf linkâbookmarked. It's so hard to find UK statistics on a Google search; I'd about given up trying.Dazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06622416045642207737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-32809450258747573482011-10-07T13:50:49.240-07:002011-10-07T13:50:49.240-07:00"Unfortunately the page you are looking for m..."Unfortunately the page you are looking for may have moved to a new location or been removed. Our apologies for this."<br /><br />Luckily we still have Google cache - <br />http://bit.ly/qkwiK6MicMachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08464263001561643944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-19967231057928441612011-10-07T12:03:45.581-07:002011-10-07T12:03:45.581-07:00"People who bought this item also bought...&q..."People who bought this item also bought..." t-shirts with jokes about Alzheimers and falling out of wheelchairs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-12534867031321986882011-10-07T11:05:05.185-07:002011-10-07T11:05:05.185-07:00Bonus disturbance, I notice it's also availabl...Bonus disturbance, I notice it's also available as a kids t shirt. <br />Email sent, I await a reply with tredpidation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10341732543661391648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5902857965429630827.post-27443565959771400482011-10-07T10:50:39.833-07:002011-10-07T10:50:39.833-07:00Beautiful post. Thank you for calling this out. It...Beautiful post. Thank you for calling this out. It is appalling and I am so tired of men thinking rape is fun.Lauren Elysehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17642027159100054881noreply@blogger.com